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GHOST
08-14-2009, 07:29 AM
The map : ut4_prague

Its fast paced and unlike other maps , there is no standoffs till 1-2 players are picked off and then a team more players rushes. A team can try to camp areas when playing a highly skilled team but that would be hard to pull off as there are no areas where a team can camp successfully without getting picked or naded. Its also very easy to flank as the map is small.

[51] vs THC

THC will be playing the match to possibly to beat 51 or tie them know that [T] tied with 51 and THC is better than [T] in TS . 51 will be playing to prove [T] was just a badly played game . Either way a good match up which can possibly go either way.

51 > THC

SyH vs [T]

Another tough match for [T] . [T] did well against 51 managing a tie . SyH is a good team who have played prague and also managed to beat BoS last week . Considering in the skill of SyH and the minor advantage they get with pings SyH should beat [T] . If [T] do beat SyH they will have graduated from a middle tier TS clan to the top tire. It is certainly possible and [T] can effortlessy prove my perdiction worng . Lets see what x8 has to has to say with his predict hax :). As such I will leave with match up with a big "?" where all the spoils will go to the winner .

SyH ? [T]

XiL vs FN

FN in a way decided to prove a point and beat icu . Well it looks like its proving time all over again for them depending on where XiL playing curve is. What is the playing curve? its how a team has been performing and for XiL its this wierd irregular curve that keeps going up and down. They tied golden which was an up before the down of the tie with icu . Then they tie h20 which sends their curve down again. :D . Both teams have had wierd ups and down . FN up being beating icu. This should be a great match up considering FN managed to beat icu where XiL only managed a tie , but Xil's tie with golden throws all the math out the window. I give XIL the edge on this game .

Xil > FN


golden vs H2o

Not much to say .

Golden > H20

BOS vs BOE

Even though BOE come before BOS in alphabetical order BOS will pretty much demolish BOE in an attempt to hop skip back up to the rankling. Any resistance will lead to flawless rounds.

BOS > BOE


sB vs Ik

ik from what I have seen are a good SA clan too , but they wont be able to do a lot against sB.

sB > ik

BOS II vs eVo

The last game BOS II played was aganist H20 and it was not good for them as it was not a close game. BOS 2 does have some good guns but i guess they are rusty idk. Evo might be able to beat BOS II . BOS II has picked up Truth.ca and I believe evo does not have a sniper of his or hedgehog's caliber. But pargue is also a map where nades can be lethal and Json is good with nades. BOS II has more skill than evo but its all about members putting some elbow grease showing up :) . That being said if eVo wants to beat BOS II its now.

BOS II > eVo

Synergy Vs Pnk

Pnk should with this with out any road blocks

Pnk > Synergy

ITC vs pretorian*Clan

ITC > Pretorian

Team*pRoMeThEaN vs iCu

icu surprising lost vs FN . Tarqin and AF joined a little too late in the 2nd round I guess. iCu is not defined by the 2 but they do add a lot of skill to the already skilled line up. If ICu need to get into the playoffs they better start winning . pRo are struggling , a good sign of which was their loss to evo . I expect iCu to win this with out issues.

iCu > pRo

ZoD VS H202

H202 should beat the shit out of zod and ruin ZOD's chances of entering the playoffs . Mark my Wor..... wait what.. H202 did not recruit the Fantastic 4 ... man i knew it , well then ZOD wins

ZOD > h20II

*XTREME.|UrT TeaM.* (BR) VS M-19

M-19 > *XTREME.|UrT TeaM.* (BR)

Clan =JoEvO= Vs ALPHA

ALPHA > JoEvO .

sense Vs Dt

Sense lost last week to EvO , I believe with their top players that would not have happened . But as such they should not have any trouble winning this onw.

Team Urban Colombia Vs ANP

TUC > ANP

Clan =FeNiX= Vs AVA

No idea how this will go :D

Nicrack
08-14-2009, 08:18 AM
Good predicts
The map : ut4_prague

*XTREME.|UrT TeaM.* (BR) VS M-19

M-19 > *XTREME.|UrT TeaM.* (BR)


:p;)

Cap.Miller
08-14-2009, 06:23 PM
I just dont agree with the part that syh has an advantage because of the ping...high ping is no advantage...

grato

GHaximus
08-14-2009, 06:35 PM
Well t can have that advantage if they play in Brazil :D!! <3

J0E
08-14-2009, 06:49 PM
[51] vs THC

THC will be playing the match to possibly to beat 51 or tie them know that [T] tied with 51 and THC is better than [T] in TS . 51 will be playing to prove [T] was just a badly played game . Either way a good match up which can possibly go either way.

51 > THC



smell that?............................fear

Anomaly
08-14-2009, 06:52 PM
XiL vs FN

FN in a way decided to prove a point and beat icu . Well it looks like its proving time all over again for them depending on where XiL playing curve is. What is the playing curve? its how a team has been performing and for XiL its this wierd irregular curve that keeps going up and down. They tied golden which was an up before the down of the tie with icu . Then they tie h20 which sends their curve down again. :D . Both teams have had wierd ups and down . FN up being beating icu. This should be a great match up considering FN managed to beat icu where XiL only managed a tie , but Xil's tie with golden throws all the math out the window. I give XIL the edge on this game .

Xil > FN


again? goddamn ghost :D

this will be an interesting match to say the least :]

Divinity
08-14-2009, 06:59 PM
GHOST, you make me laugh brother. :)

GHOST
08-14-2009, 07:19 PM
again? goddamn ghost :D

this will be an interesting match to say the least :]


Actually I do admit I might go wrong here, this was written before I saw your bomb result which with the win over iCu showed you guys seem to be back in business. :D

Ender
08-14-2009, 09:04 PM
hey ghost, cuz I'm lazy, did we disagree on any of them?

GHOST
08-14-2009, 09:10 PM
hey ghost, cuz I'm lazy, did we disagree on any of them?

nope :D

Sabba
08-14-2009, 09:41 PM
Team sabba ftw!

Ender
08-14-2009, 10:55 PM
nope :D

I got my predicts stoled!!! GJ ghost, between the two of us, people will think noobs have taken over the urt community :)

beast
08-14-2009, 11:04 PM
[51] vs THC

THC will be playing the match to possibly to beat 51 or tie them know that [T] tied with 51 and THC is better than [T] in TS . 51 will be playing to prove [T] was just a badly played game . Either way a good match up which can possibly go either way.

51 > THC



We tied THC on a crappy map where both teams camped :P


So 51 plays bad games on abbey(a map that EVERYONE PLAYS), cool. F1 for finals.

GHOST
08-14-2009, 11:24 PM
3east;11669']We tied THC on a crappy map where both teams camped :P


So 51 plays bad games on abbey(a map that EVERYONE PLAYS), cool. F1 for finals.

I see you are happy you tied both the games

gHOstFaCe
08-15-2009, 12:10 PM
I just dont agree with the part that syh has an advantage because of the ping...high ping is no advantage...

grato

When it is that high, it actually does. Don't ask me to explain it, because I can't figure it out, but you guys would be alot easier to hit if your pings were lower. It's frustrating when a team averaging 200-300 pings sees and shoots you before you see them on your screen. In my mind it should be the other way around.

Cap.Miller
08-15-2009, 01:02 PM
Ok, so lets play in brazil, we can have low pings there :), and then we will be easier to beat..

or we can always play in europe, or perhaps asia, and then both team will have 300 ping!!!

:D

|fn|Sm@sh
08-15-2009, 03:28 PM
hope i can get my shit fixed for xil vs fn :mad:

Curtis
08-15-2009, 04:17 PM
Nice tell.

beast
08-15-2009, 11:10 PM
I see you are happy you tied both the games

its the bestest accomplishementtt of my little lifeeee.

acerolla
08-15-2009, 11:50 PM
I just dont agree with the part that syh has an advantage because of the ping...high ping is no advantage...

grato

[2] play with high ping sux :D

BludShoT
08-16-2009, 12:42 AM
High ping may have the disadvante of being harder to play well when you have a bad ping, but it also has the advantage of being more difficult to hit. This is a fact.

ev!Lal3x
08-16-2009, 01:53 AM
I played against syh on their mexican server I had 200 ping and i did very good, i think im gonna change my cable connection for a 14.4k aol one it will improve my gameplay

GHaximus
08-16-2009, 05:10 AM
LoL 1 they are not mexican, LOL, it should be Brazil xD

Ghax Out

GHaximus
08-16-2009, 05:11 AM
High ping may have the disadvante of being harder to play well when you have a bad ping, but it also has the advantage of being more difficult to hit. This is a fact.


This is true.... as south americans we know how to frag with low or high ping xD!! <3

Learn maybe you will win someday nations cup

SkaDude
08-16-2009, 01:27 PM
High ping may have the disadvante of being harder to play well when you have a bad ping, but it also has the advantage of being more difficult to hit. This is a fact.

I get hit way more when i am playing is USA servers than uk ones. Fact. I dont think you can generalise high pingers as unhit. Some are the easiest people in the world to hit. i think some people are unhit for whatever reason and others are not.

Low ping is always better. You see the enemies first.

impy
08-16-2009, 03:03 PM
i still don't understand the netcode in this game after so many years. I have no problems playing on euro servers generally, but playing on wTf|San Diego is basically guaranteed fail for me. Generally don't have any problems in SA servers either, than I played a TS game with [uy] on their server not that long ago, and I swear i've never had such a laggy game, and I used to play urt on a 56k dialup. Sometimes even with my high ping it feels like i get the drop on people when i shouldn't, and other times the other way around. Too many variables are in the equation to figure out wtf is up. Ping, server load/stability, other players connections, ISP load/stability, etc.

The game is so random I don't feel you can generalize anything except 30 ping and under almost always seems like a positive.

GHaximus
08-16-2009, 07:36 PM
i still don't understand the netcode in this game after so many years. I have no problems playing on euro servers generally, but playing on wTf|San Diego is basically guaranteed fail for me. Generally don't have any problems in SA servers either, than I played a TS game with [uy] on their server not that long ago, and I swear i've never had such a laggy game, and I used to play urt on a 56k dialup. Sometimes even with my high ping it feels like i get the drop on people when i shouldn't, and other times the other way around. Too many variables are in the equation to figure out wtf is up. Ping, server load/stability, other players connections, ISP load/stability, etc.

The game is so random I don't feel you can generalize anything except 30 ping and under almost always seems like a positive.

Rodri is gonna hate me, but uy server omg!! <3!!! we south americans dont even hit there :D!! adoro rodri

Hydr0
08-16-2009, 10:49 PM
high pingers are always the ones at disadvantage

try playing against top australian clans on their server where you ping 300, and come back and tell me if you can still say high pingers are at an advantage.

Its silly to say that if you are high pinged you will become unhit therfore thats your advantage when its even harder for you hit the low pingers to begin with.

BludShoT
08-16-2009, 11:09 PM
Even Ghax admits its hard to hit laggers.

Hydr0
08-16-2009, 11:13 PM
Even Ghax admits its hard to hit laggers.

and this must mean its easy for the high pingers to hit the low pingers.. lol

never

BludShoT
08-16-2009, 11:16 PM
and this must mean its easy for the high pingers to hit the low pingers.. lol

never

Who said that?

Hydr0
08-16-2009, 11:19 PM
Who said that?

you. why even consider high pingers being "unhit" their advantage when the low pingers are even more "unhit" to them to begin with

solitary
08-17-2009, 12:14 AM
wtf server is fucked, well all of them imo.
http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/4613/wtfqjc.jpg
Thats the Client they use.....

BludShoT
08-17-2009, 02:41 AM
you.

No, I did not say that.

Hydr0
08-17-2009, 02:55 AM
No, I did not say that.

yes, you said that lol

way to selective quote me

Sabba
08-17-2009, 03:38 PM
and this must mean its easy for the high pingers to hit the low pingers.. lol

never

enough with the ping talk :(

BludShoT
08-17-2009, 08:30 PM
yes, you said that lol

way to selective quote me


Quote where I said that then, otherwise no I did not say that lol.

beast
08-17-2009, 08:32 PM
My ping sucks at 9 pm because of bad routing. LOL :D

shiza
08-17-2009, 08:53 PM
Ping isn't a good metric to measure hit detection by...at least, not in this game. It may take somebody with a 200ms ping longer to get game info but it also takes the server longer to receive game info from them which means it takes longer for the other clients to know their actual location and vice versa. I think the netcode/prediction tries to compensate for this in some way. I'm pretty clueless with how it actually works...just making assumptions.

Based on experience I wouldn't say that high pingers are at much of a disadvantage. In fact, a lot of the time they seem to be at an advantage. I think it can go either way and depends on their connection, and connection settings, relative to the server and all the other clients on the server.

A lot of the time the clients with 100ms or less ping are laggy/unhittable as well so ping is meaningless for the most part imo. Well, let me rephrase..it's not meaningless but it's just one of many factors that come into play.

GHaximus
08-17-2009, 10:58 PM
A lot of stupid people dont know anything about this ping think, just take ur guns and play in euro and sa servers, scrim better and feel ur advantage and ur disvantage. I have take 2-3 leet guys and they just sucked hard in high ping servers, why? because they are not use to. <3

Flinn
08-17-2009, 11:00 PM
from wat ive heard and seen its harder to play with higher ping. thats why i have more fun playing with my euro clan than american clan (no offense)
the competition is more "fun" in euro and normally more active.
plus its more of a challenge. (not saying NA sucks.. its just more fun shooting behinds walls :P)

acerolla
08-18-2009, 02:33 AM
high pingers are always the ones at disadvantage

try playing against top australian clans on their server where you ping 300, and come back and tell me if you can still say high pingers are at an advantage.

Its silly to say that if you are high pinged you will become unhit therfore thats your advantage when its even harder for you hit the low pingers to begin with.

F1, nice post

odeio high ping odeio >D

Divinity
08-18-2009, 02:44 AM
BOS II vs eVo

The last game BOS II played was aganist H20 and it was not good for them as it was not a close game. BOS 2 does have some good guns but i guess they are rusty idk. Evo might be able to beat BOS II . BOS II has picked up Truth.ca and I believe evo does not have a sniper of his or hedgehog's caliber. But pargue is also a map where nades can be lethal and Json is good with nades. BOS II has more skill than evo but its all about members putting some elbow grease showing up :) . That being said if eVo wants to beat BOS II its now.

BOS II > eVo

Fail Part 2 -- a new recipe for fail sauce.

GHOST
08-18-2009, 03:01 AM
Fail Part 2 -- a new recipe for fail sauce.

Cool story bro

spooky
08-18-2009, 03:09 AM
Cool story bro

Nice sig! You two are a pair!
If my posts are worthless, what does that make your preds? :)

Adoro!!!!!!!!!1 XD

GHOST
08-18-2009, 03:12 AM
Maybe they cause people to say this

Very good Predictions, Ghost. Nice work :)



http://www.ftwgl.com/forums/showthread.php?t=753

spooky
08-18-2009, 03:13 AM
I guess sarcasm doesn't translate well in text.

whoooosh....

GHaximus
08-18-2009, 04:17 AM
well at least i though he did for real good predictions xD!! <3