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this map was voted for in polling, but we have had no comments at all about it.
has anyone played this on bomb recently, and can they produce some suggested explode times for us? thanks :)
The respawn bug for blue team where one player randomly spawns in a box and cannot move and must either /kill or wait to be found is really annoying. Minus that though I like the map for bomb.
just my 2 cents.
SkaDude
07-15-2009, 03:38 PM
it's not a vote on the map. the map has been chosen already by team captains.
BludShoT
07-16-2009, 12:34 AM
True but if the bug he mentions is actually true (and happens more than 1% of the time) then it might disqualify the map...
nemes!s-
07-16-2009, 05:03 AM
The error he may be referring to was a 4.0 ambush issue... unless there happens to be another spawning in another box issue on the newer version. A screenshot or a demo would be nice.
yes it still happens. it happened to me a week or so ago on the voxel pistols and spas only server. it hapens about every 3 or 4 rounds. which player it happened to was random ill get a ss if i come across it again. and i didnt mean for it to come across as i was voting. just merely stating my opinion of the map.
edited original post.
BludShoT
07-16-2009, 08:18 PM
tAG how many people were on the server? Because spawns can have problems when you have more than 5v5 but have no problems in 5v5. So for example if you played 8v8 or 9v9, it's quite possible that you would get a spawn bug that would never appear in 5v5. And of course, we only need the spawns to work right in 5v5.
Honestly BludShot I dont remember. You do bring up a good point about the 5v5 situation. I believe that server is a 14 or 16 slot server, so its very possible it was a 8v8. Just wanted to bring the bug to peoples attention, Im still trying to find a server with people in it actually playing ambush, no bot support so i couldnt try it that way, but no luck so far. Hopefully with 5v5s we wont run into this problem cause it would really suck to have this happen in a match.
Ive attached a ss of the box in question.
Thanks for listening to my concerns.
thanks for the info tag
No problem.
Finally got a demo, this was a 5v5 when i joined but more people came in, however there were still only 5 people on blue. As you will see there was someone stuck in box, demo would have been longer but the server disconnected.
BludShoT
07-17-2009, 10:34 PM
There's 6 guys on blue tho... Would be great to test this in a controlled environment, where you don't have a 6th joining. We should set up a test like that.
lol counting fail on my part :P
solitary
08-05-2009, 01:26 AM
Why this map is unplayable:
Spawning in the boxes when on defense... map should be removed.
http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/4227/shot0015j.jpg
solitary
08-05-2009, 01:34 AM
Oh and one time I spawned here, fucking close to the sites right?
http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/3514/shot0016m.jpg
I second solitary on this one, the fact that I have players spawning in boxes and not being able to move is really going to mess things up
ZephyR
08-05-2009, 01:57 AM
I'd like to note that the incident with the box happened with us as well.
While I'm also talking about the map...illegal spot?
And this isn't the only lightpost you can get on. All can be done by a single person quite easily.
beast
08-05-2009, 03:03 AM
T isn't playing their hardest match of the season tomorrow, especially with our ping advantage. But I understand solitary's position on this one. With 51 v VeX, one guy stuck in boxes could be everything in a heated match like that.
F2 as well. Ambush is good, but apparently not for this.
see thread
http://www.ftwgl.com/forums/showthread.php?t=738
BludShoT
08-05-2009, 04:12 AM
Can someone confirm that this bug occurs with only 5 players on a team? It's ok if it happens with 6 or more.
If it happens with one person it will happen with 6.
Seems like some good information. I'll take this map off- I'll let you know the replacement shortly.
solitary
08-05-2009, 07:58 AM
Happened 5on5 ftwbomb.cfg it happens almost every second round.
While we were practicing we had it happen from 3v3 all the way up to 6v6. I know the map is changed but just thought I would give you a few more examples.
BludShoT
08-05-2009, 06:33 PM
If it happens with one person it will happen with 6.
Just for future FYI, that's not necessarily true. For example, if a mapper put in only 5 spawns per bomb team, then while playing 5v5 those are the only spawns that will be used by the game. Then when a 6th person joins, the game will use a totally different FFA spawn to spawn the 6th guy. That FFA spawn could be the bugged one.
Also, there may actually be some kind of game mode specific spawn priority, but I'm not sure. For example, in Sanc TS, if you play with a small number of people one whole team will spawn in Garden. But if you increase the number of players on that team beyond normal FTW match levels, when you get the Garden spawn a guy will spawn on the other side of the wall above tunnel.
So it was entirely possible that that was what was happening here, which is why we needed confirmation that it happens in 5v5 (or less).
Just for future FYI, that's not necessarily true. For example, if a mapper put in only 5 spawns per bomb team, then while playing 5v5 those are the only spawns that will be used by the game. Then when a 6th person joins, the game will use a totally different FFA spawn to spawn the 6th guy. That FFA spawn could be the bugged one.
Also, there may actually be some kind of game mode specific spawn priority, but I'm not sure. For example, in Sanc TS, if you play with a small number of people one whole team will spawn in Garden. But if you increase the number of players on that team beyond normal FTW match levels, when you get the Garden spawn a guy will spawn on the other side of the wall above tunnel.
So it was entirely possible that that was what was happening here, which is why we needed confirmation that it happens in 5v5 (or less).
No. If there is a 1v1 and a guy is spawning in the boxes, that means there is a broken spawn spot since none of the extra spawns are being used.
BludShoT
08-05-2009, 08:07 PM
I thought you meant if it happens to 1 person on a team of any number of people then it will happen when a team has 6. I don't think anyone actually tested it in 1v1, or at least I'm not aware of that happening. Clearly if it comes up in a 1v1 it will also come up in a 5v5.
GHOST
08-05-2009, 08:18 PM
It happened in a 1 v 1 :)
lol i only warned you back in july...
BludShoT
08-06-2009, 06:34 PM
lol i only warned you back in july...
Yeah and I asked you (and everyone) to confirm if it happens in 5v5 and they didn't do that till yesterday :p
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