from a concerned member

[ImNotCanadian]

This is a petition to have both dondon and kenny banned from being involved in Ftw. their continue lack of respect for authority and the community. after the latest exploits they have taken part in it. for those of you not familiar with it. you can read about it [on the STA forums].

I would very much like the admins of the league to take a strong stand against this destructive behavior. I know you are all in the process of discussing what to do and how to handle this situation appropriately, but this was established to be a league of the people. If the claims of gotcha prove to be accurate and true, There can be no other discourse than to ban them. I call on the members of this community to make your voice heard on this subject. If you agree with this please post

f1



if this thread is locked it will be seen as an attempt to silence the community and a sign of disrespect towards the voice of the community. Which i thought was the foundation of this league. all eyes are on you act accordingly.

[Flinn]

if it was that easy,
just to ban them.

everyone wants don and kenny gone
infact alot of people have been wanting them gone for some time now
but its hard to ban them
kenny evades bans like its nothing.
but if we could do something about them ill support it.

[Hydr0]

you the same guy who wrote that silly post on Topgun's thread huh

dude just let it go, kenny and dondon are two top players in NA, they are important part of the competition here in the states. They are just bitter about the unfairness going on in STA thats all

[spooky]

bad_k
"you the same guy who wrote that silly post on Topgun's thread huh

dude just let it go, kenny and dondon are two top players in NA, they are important part of the competition here in the states. They are just bitter about the unfairness going on in STA thats all"


Fail.
Top Players or not they are proven asshat hackers with no respect, regard or care for what they do, who they piss off or what the consequences are.

[Merky]

F1.

I don't care if they are the best fkn players on earth or how bitter they are.

[kenny]

I'll talk to the ftwgl admins...just hold up guys.

[BludShoT]

This is a petition to have both dondon and kenny banned from being involved in Ftw. their continue lack of respect for authority and the community. after the latest exploits they have taken part in it. for those of you not familiar with it. you can read about it here [on the STA forums].

The FTW admin team is aware of these issues and are looking into them, and they will handle them.

As you know, the FTW is still early in it's development, and we haven't posted our rules, or fully developed or publicized our forum rules and guidelines. So I understand that you are not aware that posting STA forum links on our forums is generally against the rules, especially when it involves any drama. But, it is, so that is why I have deleted the link on your post. People of course can still easily just browse over there, so it's not like I'm ruining your freedom of speech or anything.


I would very much like the admins of the league to take a strong stand against this destructive behavior. I know you are all in the process of discussing what to do and how to handle this situation appropriately, but this was established to be a league of the people. If the claims of gotcha prove to be accurate and true, There can be no other discourse than to ban them. I call on the members of this community to make your voice heard on this subject. If you agree with this please post

f1

The admins of the FTW are in the process of dealing with this situation, and all players are welcome to contact any of the admins privately to express your concerns. However, a thread like this increases divisive drama, not peace, and obviously borders on dragging STA drama into the FTW forums which is another forum no-no, and so that is why I am locking it. Everyone still has the ability to express their concerns as much as they want to the FTW admins however, and I am not hampering anyone's ability to do so.


if this thread is locked it will be seen as an attempt to silence the community and a sign of disrespect towards the voice of the community. Which i thought was the foundation of this league. all eyes are on you act accordingly.

The very starting of a thread like this *could* be seen as an attempt to stir up more problems, and as a sign of disrespect towards the FTW admins - not that I'm saying I see it that way, but it could be seen that way. (Furthermore, you either missed seeing, or ignored the posts that x8 and me made here: http://www.ftwgl.com/forums/showthread.php?t=237 before locking that thread, or you would have listened to what we said and not started this new thead.) The FTW admins are dealing with this issue, and this thread kind of sort of makes it look like you don't think they are going to deal with it unless you kick up a fuss. But chill, they do care about these things and they are working on it. As I said, this thread breaks the (admittedly as of yet unpublished, and therefore I can't really blame you for breaking them) rules of this forum, and it's frankly not nice that you have essentially made it a threat that we should dare not lock this thread. For you to say "all eyes are on you act accordingly" is again, a continuation of your "threat" and an (at least mild) expression of disrespect for the FTW admins who you seem to be implying do not take these things seriously and/or are not dealing with them - but they are so calm down please :)

Trust me Corvette, the FTW admins are well aware of your concern, as it is a concern of a bunch of other people too. They care about it, and will do something about it.

Please have patience and let the admins handle this situation. I'm sure they will make some sort of announcement about it soon. But I must lock this thread because these types of threads work against keeping things peaceful. The bottom line is that the admins don't need a list of F1's or F2's to know how to make a correct decision about things. Having people express their concerns to them via PM's could be helpful though, so please feel free to do that. The real problem with this thread is not at all you giving your opinion on the issue, but it is the fact that it endeavors to spread the problem out and make it larger and involve more people by bringing more attention onto it. That is why many forums on the internet have rules about taking problems like this to pm's.

Thanks.

ps: Corvette, if you have a problem with me locking this thread, please pm me to complain about it and we can work things out; do not go off posting about it or talking about it publicly instead of talking to me about it, or I will see it as a sign of disrespect for me. Thanks! :)

[x8`]

Corvette, we are well aware of your voice. Unfortunately, nothing good is going to come of this thread, since we all know it's going to devolve from a legitimate concern to a flame war. As stated before, we are going to deal with the matter. There are a number of procedures to go through first, however, before we make a decision. There is no reason for us to rush into things.

Please, until the admins make an annoucment, if you have any particular concerns, contact and admin privately and discuss it with him. Many of us are on the #ftwgl and xfire (we have an xfire group even).

Thank you for your patience.